US VS DUTCH/EU LAW SCHOOL DIFFERENCES | Back To Law School/University 2018



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49 comments

  1. You failed to mention the reason why law school students are older than those in the Netherlands. The difference is related to the fact that in the US, you need to complete an undergraduate study which normally takes four years to complete. So say a student goes to college at the age of 18, by the time they complete their undergraduate program their twenty-two or older. Then they can enroll into a four year law program at a University. Its also interesting to note, that most undergraduates who complete their study, will normally take time off to work or re-orient themselves to the things they've ignored while pursuing their undergrad degree, before they enroll in law school, which results in them being older than their Dutch counterparts. In the Netherlands, students complete the equivalent of a US high school diploma at the age of 18 and if they graduate on a pre-university track (in Dutch called VWO or HAVO), they can enroll directly into a three year law program and then a master's program of 1 year. Upon completion of what amounts to a four year study, they're ready to practice law.

  2. Your video is really great and very informative. Thank you so much for the great effort.
    Kindly let me know as I'm a LLB UK completed student wanna to migrate to Netherlands. Is it difficult to become a lawyer in dutch culture with dutch language barrier.
    Thank you 💕

  3. Thats why in the Netherlands 25% of all law students are not clinically depressed! The reason why we are more competitive here is because we have to shell out 200 thousand dollars for law school and we are a capitalistic culture!

  4. Do you have any advice for a US barred attorney (NJ/NY) (also an EU citizen: Italy )who wants to take the Dutch advocaat aptitude exam? I’m not fluent in Dutch but am studying it now and was wondering about prep courses etc. thank you for the vid!

  5. Even tho in the US there is a curve, I think the dutch system is quite harder. A curve system depends on the class. So if everyone finds an exam hard you can get a good grade after all if you understood the material. In the Netherlands they don’t adjust the grades on how the exam was made which makes it a lot harder. Also it’s nearly impossible to get a 10 meanwhile it’s way easier to get an A.

  6. Thank you so so much for this video, it was super helpful! I was accepted to UBC in Canada but I am looking to apply to Maastricht and Groningen so this was extremely helpful!! thanks a lot!! 🙂

  7. zou je nog een video willen maken voor als je in amerika wilt gaan studeren voor rechten wat je dan moet doen. eerst in nederland of gelijk door? als je snapt wat ik bedoel en hoe je dat financieerd en of je een baantje hebt

  8. As an American studying in the Netherlands, I find the grading culture strange. In the United States, it is quite feasible to achieve the highest mark, which is an A. But, in the Netherlands, it's mostly impossible to ever receive a 10.

  9. Amerikaanse mensen zijn alleen maar over jouw aan het praten. Jij bent nederlands en zal altijd nederlands blijven maar but please please please please make videos where you speak Dutch!! I understand both languages but sis I dont want to forget my language

  10. first of all having a bachelor for 3 years is such a privilege i dont even know where to begin with 🙁 i am from germany which is NEIGHBOUR to the netherlands how come our law system is so old and wannabe elitist? we too have both lectures and seminars but idk, most of us find that useless and end up studying on their own- 289032 hours library you're welcome. but this also means that very shy people can do law school- when you watch american tv shows and from what you tell law school in america is exactly for those ,,how to get away with murder persons'' – rhetorically blessed, confident, smart, witty. in germany NONE of these count, maybe a little bit in real life. also why in us they are so competitive. in germany they are as well- because the only people who study law are the smart kids who suck at maths. this sounds generalising, but believe me..everone here studies something with maths, those who excell at languages & humanities have no other choice than law school or becoming a teacher (if they dont care that much about career) = more people, less jobs. in germany a law degree DOES NOT AT ALL mean you will be rich because so many study law…only 10% with the best grades (we call that ,,prädikatsexamen'') will have all opportunities.. i feel like all the bad from the netherlands and the us combines in germany. those ,,grades on a curve'' thing- same here. i really wanted to cry when watching this video. neoliberal ideas saying how much ,, you are your own choices in life'' and ,,everybody has a chance'' but look how different the systems can be and very smart people can have very hard circumstances and vice versa. in germany we have 5 years for 1st degree and thats for the quick, then waiting processes, oral exam- 30 percent fail, are left with a high school degree after 5 years of studying. i think they can retake that one more time thats it. then waiting time again, 2 years practice for minimum wage (being in your mid twenties..) and then 2nd degree. and THEN we can do llm or get a doctor's degree and later on have to professionalize on a specific law field- but they say llm is for the veeryyy rich it takes up to 50k 100k so if you wanna be outstanding, go get your doctor's degree – other 2/3 years of studying yeahhh :))) and dont get me started about all the differences between our 16 states- so while every employer wants you to have that ,,prädikatsexamen'' none of them seem to realize that different states have different methods and practices for those degrees and that 9 points in bavaria is more worth than 9 points in bremen… and people are to consumed by studying to change the system and some masochists probably even enjoy this elitist system so they can say how american system is trash and so on but i honestly dont care.. i too wanna feel good about myself, graduating with 23, having the energy and drive to live out all my passions beside law, becoming this and that, trying this out. but no, we have to study 6 days 8-20 and work one day to make ends meet. but yeah, everyone is their own boss and responsible for their life.

  11. PLEEAAASE do more videos like this. I was literally just doing stuff around the house and my YouTube was on autoplay, but this video came on and I stopped what I was doing to sit & watch because it was so interesting. It's fascinating to learn about the systems and norms in other countries! 😀

  12. Hello Lilia!
    I love watching you, you're my therapy from my very busy college and work schedule. I am currently stuck between pursuing a law degree or a nursing degree. If you could make a video on advice between choosing a career, how you chose law or different types of law to go into it would be amazing!

  13. Hey. Always nice to see your videos pop up ans watch them. do you mind doing a hacks for doing your research work please, i have so many law papers due this semester and I need hacks to make my work better quality too

  14. Lily! I love your style! I am wondering if you could do a look book for conservative corporate law firms? I’d love to see your take on it.

  15. This was interesting as I went to law school in neither country, but could see similarities of both in the New Zealand system. Like in the Netherlands we have a mix of large lectures and small tutorials, and do an llb rather than jd. Most people do conjoint degrees and do their law degree with a BA or something else.

    Our exams are much more like the US though – same grading, and long answers and open book. Although we also usually have other assignments throughout the semester.

    I did an exchange to France in my last semester and found it very easy there in comparison! Was prett different to NZ. Also totally different legal system, in NZ it's common law so very different way of learning to many european countries. I imagine the US is also more like nz in that respect.

  16. omg I thought I was the only one who thought Dutch people don't really care about their grades. I'm Asian and I really care about getting high grades and that's why I feel different.

  17. Hey Lily,
    I wanted to know if you can make a video with advices to start a blog and a youtube channel. I really want to develop myself and skills with your opinion, your testimony with the beginning of your channel, your blog… and to know how to do cause I'm really lost right now. Also I love to watch your videos, you're very inspiring. Keep going girl !!!!

  18. Hey girl! I am also in two systems (both Canadian and American, concurrently). Interestingly enough, the Canadian system seems like a hybrid system of the Dutch and American- not quite as competitive as the American one, but still on a curve. On another note, at my American school, the bottom 10% are forced to drop out each year, so that's a bit different. Comparatively, the average American schools (similar to the way you described Dutch schools) accept more students than the average Canadian school (the Canadian average acceptance rate at law schools is about 7%- 10%- approximately the same as the "top schools" in the USA). Just a few things I've noticed! So cool to hear about how the Dutch system works, as I have family in France that study law there, and it's also a bit different! Awesome video, girl! Keep up the great work- you're killin' it! 🙂

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